Walkera Runner 250 - User Review

by FliteTest | November 9, 2015 | (6) Posted in Reviews

First my apologies for taking so long to complete this review. Things sort of got out of hand.

So let's cut to the chase. Would I buy a Runner 250? No.

The 250 is billed as a “out of the box” race class 250 quad, but that is like saying my 4 door slush box sedan is a race car. Plain and simple it is not a racing quad. More to follow on that.

What it is a soldering-free build and fly platform which will get a new pilot in the air with limited issues.

The version I received was the DIY kit which included the quad, motors, ESC, flight controller, receiver and so on.

There are other versions which include a remote plus basic charger and all kits featuring full blown FPV integrated package.

The DIY build was basic enough, but I suggest you use some nice hex tools. Working with the supplied hex keys was a pain and I did strip a few heads.

Instructions were logical and the packaging layout was outstanding. Everything was in little, well-labeled bags.

Really the quad can be put together in very little time. But there are issues.

#1 ribbon cables. On my very first test flight the cable for the flight controller came out. I’ve since taped and zip tied the controller in place.

#2 stock receiver is a Devo. Luckily the frame will accept a normal 6 channel receiver. I’m not sure if it can do CPPM or not.

#3 the worst issue of all for this product: it is built on a massive amount of proprietary parts. If you were ever to crash this quad hard, all you would be left with are the motors.

Everything else from the flight control, main board and speed controllers are all specific to this product. Their connectors and functionality are not easily transferred to another platform. I even ordered some spare props in September and I’ve still to receive them.

 

After it was built, I took the quad outside and went for a quick flight right away. And you know what? For something with no tuning, it was not half bad. You’d never win a race with it and I would not want to crash this thing, but it works.

I would describe the flying experience as mushy. Compared to the other quads I’ve flown recently, the 250 shutters on hard banking, responds poorly and is just sloppy to move around. This might sound horrible, but let's say it works. Not as a race quad but just a normal one.

What I do like:

#1 The lights. Bright day glow lights. The front white LEDs and rear red LEDs. The rear ones tell you a lot of details such as armed, safe, battery status and so on. Very nice feature but I would suggest adding a buzzer.

#2 Battery warning. This is a must on all multi rotors. When the battery level gets too low the quad will actually prevent you from gaining altitude.

#3 Landing gear. While not super strong they provide a good base but can also get caught up in there.

What I really dislike is the minimum start up speed. If you set your throttle time to low, you run a risk of flipping the quad over on start up. The issue at hand is the ESCs do not all start the motors up at the same time.

To combat this you have to raise your throttle trim level but in doing so when you arm the quad the blades and motors are spinning at a point where the quad is more or less ready to take off.

What this also means is landings can be a little rough, since you more or less have to cut the power to drop the quad. I’ve also had a few moments where I’ve backed off the power and had the quad drop in flight. Something to be aware of.

So there you go. I guess you will have to make your own decision on this quad.

For me, the Walkera Runner 250 is a nice idea but could use a little more refinement.

I know they are releasing version 2.0 but with regard to version 1.

If you are looking for a tough fast racing quad then this one is not for you.

If you are considering this quad as an entry level unit and are not worried about getting parts and pieces in the future, then it might be an ideal starting point. Especially if you can get it on sale and maybe snag up a few key spares.

I’ll keep flying it around and may setup a buddy box on it to see if I can teach my Dad and my Son how to fly multirotors.

It might be pretty decent as an FPV ship, and I will continue to play around with the motor/prop setup to see if I can extract some more flight time out of this quad.

Thank you.

 

Andre Rousseau - Flite Test Reviews

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COMMENTS

beezerfish on November 11, 2015
Thanks Andre, you pretty much mirror some other opinions I've seen on this quad...lousy race platform better AP machine
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andre on November 11, 2015
Yeah I know you can do limited tuning on the FC but not a lot.
I will keep flying but even the HMB on a KK flew better.
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raphino on November 11, 2015
Hey Andre! Nice article. But this Racer looks horrible. Even from just listening the electronics setup sounds horrible. Did u calibrate the esc? Might explane some behaviour issues.
But as far as I can tell, I wouldn't even recommand this to anyone, not even a beginner or especially as ap platform with that kind flying behaviour. Better get an emax pro arf for 200 in that case wirh tx and camera all in it! Even changing parts is easy on that frame.
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andre on November 11, 2015
Yes that is because you and I know how to build up a quad but what if you are someone starting out? While this is by no means "perfect" iit is a starting point.
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onelesseye on November 14, 2015
This would be a good first full size quad after a person learns to fly a micro quad like the nano qx. Yes, it is a bit difficult to control and is not easy to work on. Think of it as your first car. My wife's first car was 1981 Reliant K. A total piece of junk that was IMPOSSIBLE to work on, but she learned to drive a huge hulk of a car and was a better driver for it. The Runner 250 can easily be used in very much the same way. You fly it around for a while, then go to a home built frame of your own choosing, and it flies ten times better. But since you already know how to control a badly tuned quad, you will be a much better pilot and will be a master with a well tuned quad. Just the way I see it.
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raphino on November 16, 2015
Yeah iknow what you mean and you make a good point in that. Just the thing is, that little heavy tank costs 160 Dollar. I spend a lot of money in miss purchaseswhen I started off wirh fpv racer, because the highly spreaded knwoledge like today wasnt just existing. So in my opinion, we as the pilots with some experience should save new pilots going through that struggle. Anyway if you get into fpv racer most likely u gonna stick to it because its so much fun. So therefore id say its better get something to evolve on and not making you spend allready the next month a lot of money in a better system.
the nighthawk pro I was reffering to shouldnt misslead due to its name. Its actually just the nighthawk version 2 with a new mainplate which includes the skyline32 (hardware sames as a naze32 rev5), oneshot blheli 12A ESC and some good 2204 motors, for eitherway a 3s 6045 or a 4s 5045 setup. And good part about is, you get a allready build machine for 200 Dollar, which has allready a 200 boscam video tx and a 700TVl camera build in. And the electronics work great, I know the parts from my own experience. Its even pretuned.
So what can a beginner want more for that money? Its a system that gives a fresh racer the opportunity to learn on a good platform and leaves him the space to work with cleanflight and try to tune it later on for his developing skill levels up to a fast 4s racer.
so that my point of view:)
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andre on November 19, 2015
Valid points.

There are a few options in the market that even include remotes.

I guess it truly comes down to budget. ;)
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Ryecatcher on November 16, 2015
Ya know, I already bought and paid for this item and waiting for it to ship... Had No Idea it was as terrible as most are saying here. First time I ran across anyone saying so, but reading and thinking about it, it really does make sense why it is looked at in this light. Please excuse my butthurt, but what would be a good quad for a new guy that has no idea? I started on a UDI lark and caught the bug. Two Latrax aliais, one Dromida Ominous and a Syma 5SW later I had to go bigger and for what I thought would better. Love to Fly and thought this would be good until I could save (more than likely pawn items and stop eating) up more money and get googles and do real FPV. I thought I would be set having this set up. there is no one around where i live In Idaho (save the jokes) that I have found that flys Quads. The Hobbie shops here are all RC Cars and not into quads because quads are new. New is scary around these parts. Any guidance or tips would be great. All in all I really cant wait for this to get here and even if it flys like battleaxe.
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andre on November 19, 2015
If you ordered. Fly it.
I'm still waiting on my spare props to show up but will put my fpv gear on it soon.
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andre on November 27, 2015
Update. Got a refund after the packages failed to show up 2 months later.
Ordered some Gemfan 6045 and CW/CCW motor prop caps.
Should be interesting to see if the 250 works better.
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Alice Taylor on August 23, 2016
Wow! That was one visually stimulating review :) Thanks for that. I just wanted to suggest a text that also gives a great insight into this model's capabilities and advantages over similar ones http://mydronelab.com/reviews/walkera-runner-250.html
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Walkera Runner 250 - User Review