Maneuverable BoxCopter - Rear Motor Servo Mod

by BigSam | January 12, 2014 | (18) Posted in Projects

This project started when I had a desire to film over water but was limited by safe landing sites as I would mainly be flying while on a small boat.  To overcome this I decided to use Jake Well’s BoxCopter design which meant that I could land and take-off from the water.  However, I still had concerns about getting the quad close enough to the boat for easy retrieval.  Preliminary testing showed that the BoxCopter could be moved about on the water, but it wasn’t highly maneuverable  –  too much forward elevator just made the front /bow become submerged causing it to either dramatically stop or spin off course.  What it needed was more thrust in the direction of travel.

The inspiration of how to achieve more maneuverability came from the tail assembly of my tricopter.  Like many Flitetest followers, my tricopter is based on David’s RCExplorer design (which I absolutely love – so much fun to fly and can take heaps of abuse when doing proximity FPV…).  I simply used the design for the tail servo assembly on the two rear motors of the BoxCopter to enable them to pivot forward and backwards - providing more directional thrust.  I then mixed their movement in with the elevator control and a switch to activate the mix.  This meant I could fly as normal with no tilting but all I needed to do was flick the switch and I could have the motors tilt when it was on the water.  The BoxCopter also turns very well when the motors are tilted as the rudder input also applies differential thrust.

Below is some test flight video that shows how it flies and operates on water.  This has some flying with tilting motors (‘boat’ mode) and it flies quite well.  The only issue I found was when I applied hard back elevator as the tail tended to drop more than normal.  You can certainly use this to stop in a hurry though!  I will definitely be using this modification in other projects.

 The BoxCopter design made from a cake container for floatation (and to keep the electronics dry).

 All the flight electronics were secured to the underside of the lid by either velcro or hot glue.  External security camera (for FPV) is only covered in electrical tape but seems to provide enough weather proofing – at this stage anyway!  

 Close up of the tilt mechanism.

 To ensure that both servos moved in the same direction I reversed the motor leads on one servo (arrowed), as well as reversing the leads on the potentiometer inside the servo.  This meant I could use a Y-harness to connect both servos and I only needed to mix one channel in with the elevator control.
 

 

 

COMMENTS

onemoreflite (John Michaels) on January 13, 2014
Awesome! See, that's the difference between this hobby and all others, people in this hobby are problem solvers by nature, and creative to boot!
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BigSam on January 13, 2014
Cheers. I went through a few different designs, but the solution to what I wanted was surprisingly simple and built on what others had already done.
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Jake Wells on January 13, 2014
SUPER SICK! Rad design! Very cool man thanks for the shout out!
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BigSam on January 13, 2014
Thanks Jake. No probs about the shout out - you did bring the BoxCopter to us in the first place!
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RCairforce on January 13, 2014
Nice! I might have to modify my FT Knuckle quad to fly off of the lake by my grandparents' cabin. Is the top of the cake container on your build removable (so you can access the electronics) ?
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BigSam on January 13, 2014
Certainly is removable! Basically everything is mounted on the lid which then clips to the box. If you are thinking about doing some flying take-off's then maybe choose a box with a less flat front. If you look in my video you'll see it caught on the water as it gathers speed (and really stop hard when landing!). I reckon you could do some sweet take-offs if it had more of a bow (like a boat)!
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craftydan on January 14, 2014
Impressive!

Have you considered running the servos through the kk2, mixing them into channels 5 & 6?

It would take some work getting the numbers right, but I bet you could get both the stronger/flatter forward/back thrust you designed for, but also a stronger yaw.

BTW, how are the servos standing up to the water? do anything to waterproof them?

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BigSam on January 14, 2014
I did start thinking of using the KK2 but ended up going the way I did as it allows me to easily switch it on/off, plus didn't did make me go crazy trying to adjust numbers in the KK2! RCHacker has done something similar using the KK2 and used an additional joystick to control the sideways movement. Search for Sidewinder and you should find it. (I'll try and add a link to one of his articles).

As for the servos, they seem to be holding up ok. If you are smooth while on the water (particularly with landings) they don't really get wet. Time will tell though!
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BigSam on January 14, 2014
Added a link to one of RCHacker's Sidewinder videos.
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Flood on January 16, 2014
Great Idea! Instead of buying a build kit, why not build one yourself!!!
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lracnolip on January 16, 2014
Very cool idea, love how you set it up on the radio, I never would of thought of that.

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Klaus on January 18, 2014
Didn't you also have to reverse the two outside pot leads when you reversed the motor leads to the servo motor? I had to do this when I reversed one of my servos.
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BigSam on January 19, 2014
Thanks for the pick up Klaus! Yes I did reverse the outside leads on the potentiometer (otherwise the servo will not centre). I have updated the article (but unfortunately no photo...). Cheers.
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Maneuverable BoxCopter - Rear Motor Servo Mod