Watt to Look for in a Battery Charger/Discharger

by cwozny | August 9, 2012 | (4) Posted in Tips

I, along with many people who have just gotten into a hobby, like to pick up all of the needed items frugally and generally have no idea what to look for. Unfortunately, when it comes to battery chargers/dischargers, this can be a huge pain in the butt. The purpose of this article is to explain the different things you should look for in a battery charger (and discharger).


CHARGING

When I purchased my HobbyKing ECO6 50W 5A charger, all I paid attention to was its charge amperage. This was a huge mistake. The charger may be able to put out up to 5A, but it's wattage-limited. The first thing I should have looked at was the charging wattage. Wattage is a measure of power and power can be evaluated as voltage multiplied by current or: P=VI. The reason chargers are wattage-limited is because high wattage produces A LOT of heat and electronics/resistors/etc. need to be beefed up with heatsinks or made out of more resilient materials to handle higher temperatures.

When I was looking at chargers, I should've seen that the charging wattage is 50W, which means the following scenarios occur:

- A 3S LiPo pack which is at 11.4V will be able to draw current from the charger not exceeding ~4.39A (= 50W/11.4V). Towards the end of the charge cycle, the 3S LiPo will be around 12.6V which means it will be able to draw at most ~3.97A (= 50W/12.6V)

- A 2S LiPo pack which is at 7.6V will be able to draw current from the charger not exceeding ~6.58A (= 50W/7.6V). Towards the end of the charge cycle, the 2S LiPo will be around 8.4V which means it will be able to draw at most ~5.95A (= 50W/8.4V)

This is generally fine in this case since most people only charge one pack at a time and this could charge even a 5000 mAh 3S pack in a little over an hour. But what if you're charging in parallel (like I do)? That means that charging my four 3S 2200 mAh packs in parallel would take a little over two hours. Again I can live with that, but some people might not be able to.

If I were to purchase a charger again, I'd look at the capacity of the packs I would be charging. For example, if I want to be able to charge my 4x 3S 2.2Ah packs at a 1C rating in an hour, I'd need a charger that has a wattage rating of ~110W (= 4*2.2A*12.6V).

DISCHARGING

I cannot stress enough the importance of the discharging wattage rating. It's the difference between waiting an hour for your 8.8Ah 3S to discharge to storage capacity or waiting 22 hours! Let's have a look at the numbers.

The HobbyKing ECO6 50W 5A says it can discharge at a 1A rating. That's what the device can handle at probably a very, very low voltage such as a 1S. It's max discharge is 5W which makes the wattage the limiting factor in terms of discharging.

For example:

- Four fully-charged (8.4V) 2S 1000 mAh LiPo packs in parallel have a capacity of 4Ah. Since my charger can discharge at 5W, then it will discharge at a current of 0.6A (=5W/8.4V) at the start and 0.65A (=5W/7.6V) at the end. This will take ~6.4 hours to discharge to storage capacity.

- Four fully-charged (12.6V) 3S 2200 mAh LiPo packs in parallel have a capacity of 8.8Ah. Since my charger can discharge at 5W, then it will discharge at a current of 0.4A (=5W/12.6V) at the start and 0.44A (=5W/11.4V) at the end. This will take ~21 hours to discharge to storage capacity.

I don't know about you, but I'm not that patient nor can I sit around for 21 hours babysitting my batteries in case of an explosion.


For another example, say I had an iCharger which has a charge power of 250W and a discharge power of 20W:

- My 4x 2S 1000 mAh packs in parallel could discharge between 2.38A and 2.63A thus reducing my discharging time to storage capacity to ~1.6 hours.

- My 4x 3S 2200 mAh packs in parallel could discharge between 1.59A and 1.75A thus reducing my discharging time to storage capacity to ~5.2 hours.


The discharging for a 3S is a little too long for me. So let's figure out what discharge power I need to bring my batteries to storage capacity from full within an hour:

- If I want to discharge my 4x 3S 2200 mAh packs in parallel in an hour then I'd need to draw 8.8A. The highest wattage a charger would see from this would be when the batteries are fully charged. The discharge power would have to be at least 111W (=12.6V * 8.8A). You might want to have some additional breathing room in case of resistor tolerance, so 120W is a good settling point.

In conclusion, here are the two main things you should consider when purchasing a battery charger/discharger:

1. What charging wattage rating do I need to charge my batteries to full in a reasonable amount of time?

2. What discharging wattage rating do I need to discharge my batteries to storage capacity in a reasonable amount of time?

P.S. The iCharger 106B+ has a fantastic feature which allows you to put resistors inline with the discharger which allows you to discharge at much higher rates. Ycopter has a fantastic video about parallel charging/discharging in which he shows you how to use the inline resistors with the iCharger.

I hope this article elevated and educated everyone! If you have any comments or concerns, I'd love to hear about them!

COMMENTS

JarodP on September 6, 2012
Why not mostly discharge by flying? Even if you go a little too far, it's much faster to charge to the storage level than to discharge to it.
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cwozny on September 6, 2012
Ideally you'd just fly to discharge your batteries. But if the weather takes a turn for the worse after you charge up 10 of your 3S batteries and you can't fly, then you're going to have to rely on your (dis)charger to return your batteries to storage capacity.
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bandit on January 30, 2013
Is there any reason not to just hook up a battery to a secured plane in the garage and run it at 1/4 throttle with a LiPo alarm on it? Seems like a faster way to discharge. Only downside is wear and tear on the motor, maybe...?
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cwozny on January 31, 2013
You could absolutely do that. I find that sometimes I don't have time to go fly/run up my motors/unable to run my motors for one reason or another and it's nice to have it cycle my batteries on its own.
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cwozny on January 31, 2013
You could absolutely do that. I find that sometimes I don't have time to go fly/run up my motors/unable to run my motors for one reason or another and it's nice to have it cycle my batteries on its own.
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Watt to Look for in a Battery Charger/Discharger