Weed-eater Giant (with video)

by TriTriAgain | April 21, 2015 | (44) Posted in Projects

I’ve always wanted to fly a gas plane. The smell of the fule and the sound of the tiny engine idling fascinated me. When I was really young, one of our neighbours flew nitro, which I think really inspired me. Resently I got to thinking I would like to try it out but the high price was intimidating, so I went and talked to our grounds keeper (I live on a boarding academy campus) and asked him if he had any weed-eaters that he didn’t need any more. He thought for a moment and then said he had two of them I could choose from. As soon as I could I ran over to the shed where the weed-eaters were kept and fired them up. The one ran nice and the other, not so nice, so I went with the one that ran nice—I suppose that was the logical thing to do. It was a 21cc Echo gt-225.

 

                      

I did a bit of research and found that a few other people had done this before, but there was very little documentation. So, using this very helpful “Rules of Thumb” page I found on RC Groups I came up with my dimensions: Rules of Thumb

Wingspan: 8ft (96in)

Wing thickness: 2in

Cord: 16in

Wing Area: 1440 sq in

Fuselage: 6ft (72in)

Leading Edge of wing from back of prop: 14.5in

 

Horizontal Stabilizer:

SA: 360sq. in

L:30in

W:12in

Elevator: 3 in wide (SA: 90sq. in)

 

Vertical Stabilizer:

SA: 144sq. in

H: 16 in

L: 10in

Rudder: 3 in wide (SA: 48sq. in)

My next problem was trying to figure out what prop size to order from Hobby King. I did some more research and found a few people using 15-18in props, so I decided that I’d go with 16X6 props. I added three of them to my cart, tossed in five 35g servos and hit confirm order. 

While my order was shipping, I turned to my weed-eater and begun tearing it apart. Slowly but surly the plastics came off until all that was left was a tiny little engine: 

 

Now on one side of the engine there was a clutch and on the other there was the pull-start mechanism. I unthreaded both of them and then went to the shop on our campus and rummaged through a box of metric nuts and bolts (the thread on the crank-shaft was metric). My challenge now, was to find a way to attach the prop to the shaft. Sounds simple, but I found it was far more difficult.  

In the end, I decided to try welding three of nuts together in a row. I threaded half of the three nuts onto the motor shaft and then thread into the other half, a bolt through the prop and therefore held the prop to the motor.

 

Next I asked our maintenance manager if I could have a 2x8ft. sheet of pink insulation foam. He agreed and I set to work cutting the trailing edge with a hand-saw, and then I cut a 45deg. angle with the table-saw on the leading edge. I rounded it off with sandpaper and she looked great! I cut a notch with the table-saw on the CG mark and glued a oak spar into the wing. cut some ailerons into the wings, and popped on the servos and, there it was. 

The fuselage was a 2x2 that I cut at 6 feet long and then drilled big holes all the way down the length of the body to reduce weight. I then used the four bolts that held the pull-starter to the motor to bolt the engine to the body. I bent an aluminium piece for the gear and drilled holes in that too, just to lighten it up.

I bolted the wing to the body and to two aluminium angle pieces I screwed to the side of the fuselage. The original fuel tank from the weed-eater I bolted just under the wing: 

For the horizontal stab I used foam-board doubled over. and the Vertical stab was just one layer thick. I cut control surfaces into them and it was ready to fly!

I gave the prop a flick and she fired up! 

And lift off!

Final aproch...

Touch down!

Back on the ground, safe and sound! I learned a ton from this project and I hope it inspires others to try some far-out things they have been thinking about doing but never got around to trying. If you have any questions about the spesifics of the build don't hesitate to leave a comment!

Happy flying!

COMMENTS

Timebom on April 21, 2015
Very Cool! My only problem is it looked like you kicked over the prop by hand. As an old Nitro flyer, I would suggest making a "Chicken Stick". 1" to 2" dia wood dowel about 4"~6" long. Use this to keep your hands/fingers out of the prop when starting. Mine has many nicks in it from use over the years. Other than that, I think you did a great job and very cool recycling of the old motor!
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macster5187 on April 21, 2015
Great project! One question... Did you leave the engine running full RPM the whole time till out of fuel, or did you have the ability to kill the throttle for a dead stick landing?
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TriTriAgain on April 21, 2015
I connected a servo to the throtal on the carberator so I have full throtal control. I land at an idle and then I have a switch on my tx that I can flip witch pushes the throtal past idle-killing it.
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macster5187 on April 21, 2015
Great! Thanks for the response!
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dharkless on April 23, 2015
Nice job. I like the way you used materials on hand. It reminds me of stories about people stuck behind the Berlin walls making full sized airplanes to escape. It happened at least once.
The way it is usually done with nitro/gas is to use the throttle trim. Set full trim for the idle adjustment and minimum trim will cut the engine.
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danield on April 30, 2015
throttle the carburetor as to choke the air and kill it. (spell check)
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TriTriAgain on April 21, 2015
Thanks for the suggestion, will do right away, FYI I start the engine cold using a drill. I discoverd that once I had done flight and the engine was hot, all it took was flick and away she went, but thanks for the warning. I'll take heed!
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Trauma50 on April 21, 2015
Great project. But no video? I would love to here that weedeater engine during a full throttle low fly by.
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Trauma50 on April 21, 2015
"would love to hear" spell check doesn't work if the word is spelled right?
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TriTriAgain on April 21, 2015
*coming soon*
I'll post as soon as I'm done editing it!
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rfander on April 22, 2015
That's incredible! Nice build! I'd like to see the video too.
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rcwingman on April 22, 2015
Fantastic Project, thanks for sharing that!
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Flyingninja on April 22, 2015
Yo, this thing is awesome! How fast can it go?
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TriTriAgain on April 22, 2015
Thank! I haven't actually clocked it, but I'm guessing about 40km/h
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c.sitas on April 22, 2015
What size and weight were the servos you used.
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TriTriAgain on April 22, 2015
Here is the part: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__16269__HobbyKing_8482_HK15138_Standard_Analog_Servo_38g_4_3kg_0_17s.html

its a 38g servo from HK
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danield on April 30, 2015
$3.25 USD plus shipping.
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TriTriAgain on April 22, 2015
Video uploaded! thanks for the request...
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apnewton on April 22, 2015
Fantastic project and what a noise! 5 stars
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TriTriAgain on April 22, 2015
Thanks! Those hot passes never fail to put a smile on my face :)
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Yogenh on April 22, 2015
I love it. It didn't seem to hard to use the engine for that. Was it that all you had to do was just take the weed eater parts off and that was all? I didn't think that the carb that was on it would let it get the power that is needed. I thought that I would have to go with a carb from a chainsaw. Would a barb from a chainsaw give it more power? I have 3 weed eaters and one is a 4 stroke and would love to try that. Thanks you did great and may have started something!!! LOL
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TriTriAgain on April 22, 2015
Ya, I lethally just unscrewed all the plastics, took off the long "weed-eater" part and glued a servo onto the already existing carb for throttle control. I did take the air filter and spark arrester off of he the engine but other than that it's stock. I am looking for ways to lighten and make it more powerful so i'll look into the chainsaw carb thing... thanks for the kind words!
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TriTriAgain on April 22, 2015
Literally* not lethally LOL
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danield on April 30, 2015
2 stroke engines are very sensitive to intake and exhaust changes. Can be fun or disappointing. Weed eaters and chain saws are tuned for most power @ a specific rpm. Used to play with 2 stroke engines back in the days of wizard powered bicycles and washing machines. There were no weed eaters and 4 strokes were cast iron and heavy. Boy are we spoiled today.
I love the challenge you took on and great follow through. Could be a winner in the ugly stick contest.
Chicken stick or motor to start is a must, I still have the scars and lucky to have fingers
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TapeGlueSolder on April 22, 2015
Definitely one of my favorite builds in a long time!
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Fairmont Flyer on April 22, 2015
I definitely need to get the local club to build one of these with me. Weekend challenge! It's awesome to see people doing this type of stuff with things around their house!
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hoppy81 on April 23, 2015
Great job! Very exciting
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CJGFX on April 23, 2015
Good Job... Always wanted to do something like that.. sadly I don't have a nice greasy landing strip like you have there... I just have lots of rocks!!!!

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NoUsername on April 25, 2015
Outstanding job. What gave you the idea to build your neat plane?
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TriTriAgain on April 26, 2015
Well, a friend of mine in my class and I were thinking about how much time and money it would take to make a small ultra-lite and then realized there was no time or money for that :)
So the next biggest thing was to make RC go BIG... so a weedeater was next in line a guess!
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danield on April 30, 2015
Great minds and challenge. Well done.
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PeterGregory on April 26, 2015
Great job, you figured a lot out to get this to fly so well. Congrats, very clever.
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ALazo01 on April 28, 2015
A good idea is never lost!
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webdragon on April 30, 2015
Sweet DIY weedy can't wait to see video.
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TriTriAgain on April 30, 2015
I imbedded the video already :)
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Team Monkey on April 30, 2015
I applaud your project and determination. Don't forget, or maybe you didn't see, the years and years of engine conversion information on RCUniverse
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/engine-conversions-92/
Also, there are many home built conversion engines and aircraft for them over on spadworld.net.
http://spadworld.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=11&sid=558fdae27b6d880333743b21b0e090c3

This is not to take anything away from FT, just to remind folks that there are other sites with years and years of experience that can be of help. One cannot expect to find everything in one place. :-)

Good luck on your next project!
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TriTriAgain on April 30, 2015
Thanks for the links! As far as info in other places goes, RCuniverse and RCgroups were massive helps for my project, and as far as the conversion kits... I really wanted to see if I could do it on my own :) But I agree about there being info around the web!
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casonjimmy on May 1, 2015
Great job! I hate to think of how many weed eaters I've thrown away because of problems other than the motor! That is probably the best Background view of any flying field I've ever seen!
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rcflyer729 on May 1, 2015
cool project I would like to try something like this myself
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nagendra03 on May 1, 2015
Can you please make documentation with enough images....plz
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TriTriAgain on May 4, 2015
What do you mean by that?
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HilldaFlyer on May 4, 2015
Very resourceful. I like it a lot. Nothing feels better than building something that really works well. Congrats!
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Dan o fly on May 7, 2015
I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE IT GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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andyroo97 on May 15, 2015
What type of foam did you use for the wings etc? Is there somewhere that I can get some online as I am replicating this build :D
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TriTriAgain on May 21, 2015
Really stoked to hear someone is trying it themselves! The foam I used is a 2in by 2ft by 8ft sheet of insulation foam. I did a quick google search and found it at the home depot: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/foamular-c-300-extruded-polystyrene-rigid-insulation-24-inch-x-96-inch-x-2-/905952

but I'm sure you can find it elsewhere...

let me know if this answers you question!
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andyroo97 on May 28, 2015
Yeah this looks amazing! Thanks that's great. I'm from Scotland!
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LeBuimi on August 3, 2015
How did you mount the motor to the fuselage ?
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TriTriAgain on September 25, 2015
I took me the place were the pull start originally bolted to the engin (conveniently there were four bolts in a square) and so I screwed a little piece of plywood to my "fuselage " (2X2) and then bolted the engin to that piece of ply. I also used some washers to give the engin the right angle (down and to the right)
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VyMoka on September 18, 2015
Looks impressive...Looks like the direction and review from this site http://weedeaterguides.com/
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PlanesAndThings1 on October 14, 2020
The Weed-o-plane!
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Weed-eater Giant (with video)