FT Gremlin Nutball

by uberjay | October 17, 2013 | (12) Posted in Projects

The FT Gremlin Nutball

See below for flight footage - just added 2013/10/19.

So, Marek (aka "MEGAjig" on RCGroups.com) pumped out a large plane out of parts laying around he called the "FT Logo Plane".  The thread includes flight video, a request for suggestions, and a challenge to others to have at it.  So... here's what I came up with.  I simply shrunk it, included the rings of the logo as part of the airframe and stuck on the FT Gremlin on the nose.  Seems simple, I know, but then I had the dumb idea to get the Gremlin to do some of the flying!

Hold on... before I go any further, here is the RCgroups thread that got me going on this.. do check it out and give cudos to Marek.  His plane looked really cool.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2009538

Also, while I'm at it, here's Frank's (aka Goldguy) original Nutball thread - hommage to the one and only Frank!  :)

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=836389

Okay, now, back to the Gremlin doing the flying.  Originally, I wanted each arm to work a surface, but that seemed too difficult with two moving arms, etc.  So, I decided (odd I know) to rig up a pull-pull rudder.  If you look closely at this photo you'll see the wires running from the rudder to each of the Gremlin's hands.  No joke!

It's a bit iffy functionally speaking.  My first pull-pull rigging and I didn't put too much thought into control arm or gremlin arm lengths, etc.  So, right now it works, but it isn't perfect.  We'll see after flight night tomorrow and I'll update with how it went... and with what I'm going to do to make it perfect :).

Here's another shot from the other side showing more of the servo mounting/setup.  Rudder is under his arms and elevator is on the rings/nose.

All up weight (including battery!) for this little guy came in at 50.1 grams!!  (1.76 oz).  With a wing span of 10.75 inches that's a wing area of 0.6302 sqft.  That's a wing loading of 2.79 oz/sqft.  Well within the floater nutball range ;-).

I'll add more verbage and maiden flight video after tomorrow night's indoor session (check out the antics at: http://www.youtube.com/uberjay2 and search for "Cobble Indoor" on my channel).  For now though, here's a quick list of components and I'll attach a PDF of the plans - though, it's just a nutball... easy to build :).

Specs:

  • Wingspan: 10.75"  (was shooting for 10, but the string stretched when I was drawing the circle ;-) )
  • Flying Weight:  50.1 g (1.76 oz)
  • Wing Loading:  2.79 oz/sqft

Parts:

  • Motor: Turnigy 1811-3800kv
  • Prop:  GWS 5030 (5x3") from Hobbyking
  • ESC:  Turnigy 5A 1S Brushless ESC
  • Servos: HK-5320 Ultra-Micro Digital Servo 1.7g / 0.05sec / 0.075kg
  • Receiver:  OrangeRx R415 Spektrum DSM2 Compatible 4Ch Micro 2.4Ghz Receiver
  • Battery:  ThunderPower 1S 160 mAh 25C (as well as some Nano-tech's I have laying around)

PDF Plans:  FT Gremlin Nutball Plans v1
    (Notes: I manually added tabs and slots for the rudder and his feet.  I also only used two 3/4" strips for the keel.)

More details and build photos later as well.  If you have any questions please feel free to ask here or on Twitter (@Uberjay2) /Youtube (youtube.com/uberjay2).

Okay... with no further ado here's the maiden flight.  Hope you enjoy as much as I did - it was a blast to fly and see it fly so well!  I surprised myself with this one - was half expecting it to crash and burn, but no, it flew very well.  Take a look...

Here's a revised video with the sound corrected and I've added in two additional flights... enjoy!

Cheers,
J

COMMENTS

tomsun on October 18, 2013
Aww, he looks adorable, trying to pull that rudder :)
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uberjay on October 18, 2013
:) Thanks. My next mod may be to put elev on one arm and rudder on the other. I'll also have to stiffen up the Gremlin's structure. As it is, he wags with rudder movement ;-).
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jetpackninja on October 18, 2013
More stars when I see it fly!
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uberjay on October 18, 2013
In due time... 6 - 10pm tonight is indoor.... will record it tonight and hope to post vids over the weekend.
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MEGAjig on October 18, 2013
Hey Uberjay,

Your FT Gremlin plane looks awesome. I can't wait to see it fly. I'm sure you will have a lot better luck than I did. The pull pull rudder is a really nice touch.
If all else fails and for some reason it won't stay airborne, I will pass along one of my favourite pieces of advice given to mean on my youtube post "6s and go vertical".

Cheers
Marek

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uberjay on October 19, 2013
LOL... thanks Marek! Great news... I don't have to strap on a 6S to it... it flew and flew really well! I'm about to start cobbling together some vid and will upload asap. Thanks for the inspiration ;-).

J
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steadfast4life on October 20, 2013
Great job. Ive wanted an indoor flyer. Built one but was way too big and powerful. I'm gonna steal your idea and setup!
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uberjay on October 20, 2013
Thanks! And you are most welcome to the plans (PDF linked above) and if you need any help along the way I'm happy to help. One note... you can go with or without the gremlin on top. If you go with the gremlin the plans show two separate arms - I cut them together as one so I could do the pull-pull setup. Actually, the nutball would be lighter (and less nose heavy) without the gremlin on top. As it was I had to swing the Rx and lipo as far back as my wires would allow to get the CG right on the 25% mark (NB's are 25% - 30% for CG). Oh, and on the motor mount remember 5 degrees down thrust and 3 right. You can also mount the motor flush and shim it until you get the right thrust angles you like - that works too ;-).

Cheers,
J
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Slowjo on December 13, 2019
luv it : )
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uberjay on December 14, 2019
Thanks! Good old memories. I wound up giving this to one of Josh's sons (Noah, I believe) for his birthday one year when the JR/Horizon Indoor was still being held in Columbus. Through whatever turn of events it wound up on the old HQ's set of the FT youtube channel and was seen sitting there for a number of episodes. It lived a pretty long life, but I think it may have met the graveyard now. :)
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FT Gremlin Nutball