099 FAA Discussion w/ Austin & Alex

by FliteTest | December 17, 2015 | (6) Posted in Podcasts

Alex and Austin sit down to discuss the new RC registration requirement, take some voice mails and make some announcements. 

 

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 If you own a drone, you must register it with the Federal Aviation Administration's Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) registry. A federal law effective December 21, 2015 requires unmanned aircraft registration, and you are subject to civil and criminal penalties if you do not register. 

 FAQ 

Do I need to register my hobby RC airplanes or "toy" quadcopters? 

Yes. "Registration is a statutory requirement that applies to all aircraft.  Under this rule, any owner of a small UAS who has previously operated an unmanned aircraft exclusively as a model aircraft prior to December 21, 2015, must register no later than February 19, 2016." 

Any aircraft over 0.55 pounds and under 55 pounds qualifies and must be registered. 

Do I have to register each of my RC aircraft separately? 

No. For those of you who have dozen's of aircraft, you register once as a pilot you will receive a registration number that must be displayed on all of your aircraft. As a pilot you will need to give your name, home address and email address.  

 

Does it cost?


Yes and no. There will be a $5 fee for registering that is good for 3 years. However as a big 30 day push from (from Dec. 21, 2015 to Jan 20, 2016) to get as many people as possible registered they will be "refunding" the $5 to anyone who registers in this time frame. 

Well what if I don't?


"Failure to register an aircraft may result in regulatory and criminal sanctions. The FAA may assess civil penalties up to $27,500. Criminal penalties include fines of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment for up to three years."

Why is the FAA doing this now?

 

“We expect hundreds of thousands of model unmanned aircraft will be purchased this holiday season,” said FAA Administrator Huerta. “Registration gives us the opportunity to educate these new airspace users before they fly so they know the airspace rules and understand they are accountable to the public for flying responsibly.” 

 

 

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pity_the_fool on December 17, 2015
The dichotomy between this podcast and the After Hours podcast concerning registration is hilarious. I wonder if Josh's opinion is somewhere in the middle?
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shanebrown on December 19, 2015
100% agree. Also the After Hours podcast had much more accurate information and the discussion was much better organized and researched. This podcast sounded like it was just thrown together and the information wasn't presented well.
I think the we should all be following the AMA's recommendations, including the Flite Test guys.
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anonymoose on December 17, 2015
Flite Test has a huge following, and I think you should be discouraging people from registering.

Congress passed Code Section 336 titled FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012. Section 336 specifically stated the “FAA may not promulgate any rule or regulation regarding model aircraft if 1) flown for hobby or recreation; 2)aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based and nationwide set of safety guidelines; and 3) the aircraft does not exceed 55 lbs...”.

When the Task Force meeting convened, the FAA opened by informing all participants that the assumption moving forward was that the FAA HAD THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE REGISTRATION and the SPECIAL RULE FOR MODEL AIRCRAFT WOULD NOT BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, thereby shutting down AMA's argument at the beginning. AMA should have walked out of the meeting and filed an injunction to stop the FAA from moving forward with the regulations, and notify Congress of the FAA's intent.

The FAA from the outset knew they were regulating CONTRARY TO CONGRESS' INTENT to exempt hobby model aircraft.

Instead of caving in like a bunch of sheep, we need to fight back against this unlawful action.

We need to inform Congress that we are a significant industry, which generates and pays taxes, we vote, and we are one voice.

I would incourage all modellers to not register – by registering, you are legitimizing the FAA with the power to rule over us. By registering, you are entering into a contract with the FAA, and thereby opening the door for more rule making.

Do not be fooled by the 30 day free, then $5 registration fee. Next time it could be $50, then $250, then they announce that there are not enough modellers for this program, and exclude hobby flying all together. Later they may require that we register every model, every component, and require vendors to establish registration prior to selling you a servo, esc etc., putting the burden on the vendors to track sales and maintain a federally accessible database.This will put many vendor's out of business.

This action by the FAA is nothing more than to create a greater need for the FAA and increase their taxpayer funded budget.

Unfortunately, the AMA did not represent its 185,000 members by walking out of the task force meeting, instead they taught the FAA how to regulate the hobby (e.g. weight restrictions, numbers inside of our 'toy' airplanes.)

I suggest that modellers should NOT attend the AMA expo, should cancel their AMA membership (or ask for a refund if already renewed), and any lifetime members ask for a refund of their contribution, and show the AMA that we are a force, and we do not accept the AMA's failure to protect our rights. Isn't that why we joined the AMA? We relied on the AMA to protect our hobby, and we could have accomplished more without them. Did you stop to think why the AMA offered an early discount for renewal, before the FAA released their regulations? Coincidence in timing? I think not.

If the FAA registration website begins operation on 12/21/15, that means they have been working on it for a while, and the AMA has been misleading its members regarding their working with the FAA to protect our right to fly.

If no one registers, the FAA rule making will fail, just like obamacare is failing.

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Fearless FPV on December 17, 2015
Yep. Just got an e-mail from the AMA telling me to hold off registration.
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The-One-Who-Never-Crashes on December 17, 2015
It's not that we don't have the right to fly, it's that we have to pay to do so. As long as the AMA tried their best, I'm OK.
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Battershell on December 22, 2015
Has anyone been able to even get logged into the FAA.gov site to even look at it? I cannot get it to accept my passwords for some reason even though I have had them double checked and verified. Still says I am typing in wrong passwords or email address. Anyone?
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The-One-Who-Never-Crashes on December 22, 2015
I wouldn't be too surprised if I found out that they have messed up their website as well.
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vptorres on December 18, 2015
Licencing/Registration

I wonder if this maybe considered like a drivers license.

Separation between Professional/Commercial Drivers and Non-Commercial.
The different classes/levels etc.....
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frugalflyer on December 18, 2015
ONLY US CITIZENS CAN REGISTER TO FLY
As a long time flyer and a LEGAL permanent resident am I to be banned from flying?
In the FAA QA - Q22. Is there a citizenship requirement?
A. Only United States citizens can register their small UAS. The certificate serves as a certificate of ownership for non-citizens, not a registration certificate.
But only REGISTERED UAS can fly.

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Anon Pilot on December 18, 2015
Worried by all this talk about NOT flying over 400ft. Wouldn't this be a disaster for thermal soaring??
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polodu64 on December 18, 2015
I was wondering : what if I'm from a foreign country (France in my case) and I want to carry my drone with me on a trip to the USA : do I still have to register, or is there a special authorization I should ask for or something ?... thanks :-)
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The-One-Who-Never-Crashes on December 22, 2015
This is one of a multitude of questions that remain unanswered.
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frugalflyer on December 18, 2015
Sorry as the rule stands you cant register. As stated - only us citizens can register, So no foreigners will be allowed to fly in the usa.
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FlyingMonkey on December 21, 2015
It's so much worse than that. The FAA has said that they won't regulate people from other countries. Only US citizens.

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The-One-Who-Never-Crashes on December 22, 2015
Talk about discrimination!
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anonymoose on December 18, 2015
For those of you who are going to cave-in like a cheap tent and register because you are afraid, and want the FAA to bless you with a secret code for your airplane, this is the way it is likely to go:

The FAA will likely screw up your name, physical address, or email address, esp. with people having the same last name;
Different pilots will be issued the same number;
You may be issued someone else's number;
Or a combination of all of the above.

The FAA never seems to answer their phone, so to correct the errors you will be directed to their email system. Have you ever tried to correct something over email? It will take weeks or months to correct the errors.

If you are ever able to speak with the FAA to try and resolve the error(s), they will proceed to ask you for more information to prove who YOU are, and they always default to your social security number, or other irrelevent, personal information.

If someone is in violation and using your number, YOU will receive the threatening letters, and the burden of proof on YOU to prove otherwise. If the FAA does not have your correct address, then you will never receive the violation notices, and you do not respond within the allowed time frame, your non-compliance will result in their impossing against you the excessive fines and penalties. Next step – collections and levys. Similar to IRS procedures. Good luck with that.

Finally, if you happen to also be a full scale pilot, your pilot's license, which may be your profession, may now be at risk for violation because of an error in the FAA's toy airplane database.

By the way, full scale pilot licenses are issued for no fee. Why should modellers have to pay $5?
If this is a registry to promote safety, why should there be a fee?

So the whole registration system is pointless. It is just another way to punish the law abiding (modellers, in this case) under the gise of protecting the public from a problem that does not exist.

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NCC1701 on December 18, 2015
Oh ok so I'll be a good little airplane hobbyist and register, THEN go and do something dumb. Toatally POINTLESS!!! I do not think that any person who has the brains to register would do something illegal. The people who want to do something dumb will not register in the first place!

They've killed our hobby.
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Churro on February 11, 2016
...or will steal the number of someone else, and that person will be presumed guilty. The info collected on those who register is mostly PUBLIC! I am outraged that I am threatened with prosecution if I fail to do something dangerous (i.e. register). What steps has the FAA taken to stop some criminal from simply entering random numbers into the database until they get a hit, then placing that number on their craft before using it irresponsibly?
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Churro on February 11, 2016
It seems to me that these regulations potentially make it EASIER for someone to evade prosecution for criminal behavior. Regulations may be inevitable, but these regulations have been very badly crafted.
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PeterGregory on December 19, 2015
For the first time in all my time listening to/watching FT I couldn't even finish listening to this podcast.

I thought FT would be a leader in pushing this FAA reg back but it was more like you guys are shills for their program.


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habakkukk on December 19, 2015
Why has no one mentioned the potentiality lethal effect this registration will have on growing the hobby. I'm somewhat new, but I can say with certainty I would never have attempted to pick up a transmitter if I knew before I could fly my own plane I would have to submit my personal information to the FAA's database. I would be willing to bet I'm not alone here. Flite Test has probably done more for the hobby over the last couple years than the AMA, and I think you guys are awesome, but I couldn't finish this pod cast.
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shanebrown on December 19, 2015
I would love to hear the FliteTest and the After Hours guys on the same podcast to debate this.
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boldfin on December 20, 2015
As a relatively new modeler, I've benefitted tremendously by the content and information shared by Flite Test, and I've supported you with purchases of your products. But I have to say I was deeply disappointed by the stance taken by Austin and Alex on this podcast. I get it, as a distributor of UAV products, you have to CYA. I also get that a lot of you are full-scale pilots (or related to them, or may someday wish to become one), and I can appreciate the unique leverage the FAA has on a full-scale pilot/model aircraft enthusiast. But come on, this is just wrong on so many levels. Allowing the FAA to get this foothold will hurt the hobby, if not kill it in the long run. Just look at the damage this has already done to the AMA's reputation (non-deservedly, thought it may be). Maybe you're already resigned to the fact that this is a done-deal, and you're "OK with it". I might be too if I had access to private or AMA-sanctioned flying areas, or the resources and time to comply with the burdens of additional FAA regulations on model aircraft that are sure to come. But I don't, and there is a limit to how much nonsense I will put up with before I find another way to enjoy my free time with my kids. In the meantime, I can tell you this much - I am fighting. I have written my congressman, and requested a sit-down meeting to discuss this issue face to face. I am an AMA member, and have sent them additional contributions to fuel their legal effort against this overreaching, burdensome, ineffective, and disingenuous attempt to make the public "feel safe". The fact that you appear to be doing anything less than that amazes me. Say it aint so?
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PeterGregory on December 20, 2015
The recent history of FAA behavior has shown how heavy handed they are, and how inept legally they are. Brendan Schulman destroyed them in court regarding their over-reach on the Trappy case.

I think this a perfect time for FT to get behind the AMA whole-heartedly, and permanently, if FT really believes in safe flying.

Here are the reasons.

0) Process: the FAA has illegally skirted the necessary public commentary period required for such a measure
1) The ruling was issued in the "middel of the night" showing the FAA's complete false pretenses in indicating public opinion was being considered.
2) None of what we are seeing coming down from the FAA would have happened if it weren't for the proliferation of multirotors. There is a small crossover of fixed wing that represent the same threat to invasion of privacy, and invasion of national airspace. More below.
3) FT fully pushes the multirotor hobby and is part of the commercial / retail community. FT is in a leadership role with this. I do recall the word "responsible" coming up often in FT shows.
4) Here are the five issues with RC and/or autonomous model aircraft flying:
a) cameras, at all, mounted on RC and/or autonomously controlled model aircraft
b) FPV-capable model aircraft
c) GPS-capable model aircraft
d) Beyond-line-of-sight flying, at all (autonomous or FPV)
e) Specifically, flying model aircraft in any controlled airspace

Realize that the classes, above, cover both multirotors AND fixed wing.
However, it is the anticipated massive growth of MR ownership this holiday season on which the FAA is activating.

Any one of these classes of flying should be under the scrutiny of the FAA.
I have maintained that there has to be a new FAA certificate for most of those classes of flying - and I hold a private pilots certificate.

These classes have to be separated from traditional line-of-sight, recreational flying - as in add-on membership levels for AMA. For basic, within-line-of-sight only flying should, registration should not be required. This would be reasonable IF the FAA considered the AMA a legitimate Community Based Organization, that self-governs RC flying.

AMA will never get the millions of multirotor flyers the were hoping to get - there just isn't a motivation for those flyers to join AMA. This was a big miscalculation, seen by many. OK, the AMA gave it a try - and failed. It might have worked, no crying over spilt milk - just move on. Separate the five classes of flying, above, into a different membership level.

This is a watershed moment for the AMA, where it HAS to fight for relevancy and credibility, now that its authority was usurped by the FAA. What will be the AMA's next move?

Let the FAA registration for the aforementioned five classes remain. $5 fee with legally binding restrictions controlling the possible future rate hikes.

Here are some big problems with registration, at all, with the FAA.
1) The FAA is criminalizing all RC flying in the view of the public. The FAA would just as soon have all RC flying die off.
2) In so saying, my current understanding of the new rule is that the database would be made public - inviting retaliation by the public. The same public that has been enticed to handwringing over the criminality of ANY RC flying, by the FAA.
3) Cases of "drone" sightings by pilots have not been proven - and need to be. Many hobby-disconnected pilots would just as soon see general recreational RC flying destroyed, as well.
4) AMA has maintained a high level of civic involvement, public relations, educational programs, and more. The FAA knows this and chose to throw the AMA and all RC Flyers under the bus.

You can do something specific to disrupt this FAA move - just call your Congressperson, as I have done. If you need to know who that is, and how to call, and then how to write them, use this website to get that info:

http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

If anybody thinks there are other places in the FT forum to put this info, please send me a PM or email...

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Stenberg^ on December 21, 2015
I'm not sufficiently able to express how deeply I disagree with you on this matter. Since I'm neither an American nor a US citizen, I guess that doesn't matter neither. What got me to comment on this was the massive contrast in the stance you guys take on this matter versus the after hours podcast. There are some really good comments above me, which pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly, but regarding what you said about letting this ruling be of presedence for other governing institutions, I'm hoping and praying that doesn't become a fact. Even though this doesn't concern me directly, I just feel so bad for the hobby and all of you hobbyists over the atlantic. This regulation serves noone, and is only going to be of trouble for all of you, that are already abiding the rules. This really is rushed and terrible legislating with more holes than a swiss cheese. Completely misses the target in my opinion. I'm sorry for the rant, I just had to give my 10 cents about this.

Love from Norway
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Larry Laitner on December 21, 2015
I just decided not to register right now. I went to the registration site this morning and discovered that the process seems to be for drones. You have to click "register my drone" to enter the registration process. I refuse to click "register my drone". Also, when you go to "examples of what has to be registered" all of the examples are drones. I don't fly drones, and I'm pretty sure they only had drones in mind. I will just keep flying my RC airplane until they create a registration process for my aircraft.
https://registermyuas.faa.gov/

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earthsciteach on December 21, 2015
FT has absolutely no position to tell people to not register. They can certainly express their opinions on the matter, but should NEVER give advice on how to handle this situation.

Imagine if FT did encourage people not to register. Then, some of those people got nailed by the FAA for flying without registration. In our litigious society, someone is going to go looking for someone else's pockets to pay the fine. FT and Lauren could be on the hook for advising folks. Maybe it sounds crazy, but there is a very real reason why there are "Coffee is hot" warnings on coffee cups.
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FAI-F1D on December 22, 2015
This is the first time I've been well and truly disappointed with the FT team. Guys, take this from someone who has dealt with the FAA his entire life (and has never run afoul of them), these people are not your friends, and they do not have the public's best interest at heart. There is legitimate blood on their hands in the full scale world and they have the gall to tell us they can accomplish something positive in the unmanned world? When they get the Air Force to stop crashing large scale drones into houses and teach their ATC minions to treat GA pilots like human beings I'll give some thought to them having standing to even comment on model aviation activities. The personal loss I've seen at the hands of these scum in indescribable...
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defconxzero on December 22, 2015
I've never posted before, but with all of this idiocy going on around us I have to throw in my two hundredths of a dollar. Everyone thinks that the FAA is out to get them and that they have only themselves in mind. You're blindly gravitating towards being on the side of fighting the FAA because you think they're this big bad guy whose taking away your freedoms. I say blindly because if you're kicking and screaming I believe you aren't seeing the big picture here or using common sense. Now to be clear, I dislike what the FAA is doing, but it doesn't make it wrong. You'll fight me on that, whining that they're not being legal about it. but when they passed those laws in 2012 they didn't think the public would be dumb enough to consistently use bad judgement and fly near airports, planes, rescue efforts, and the Whitehouse. Don't you see? They gave us as a country the benefit of the doubt and we blew it. While it's true that it was only a small percentage of RC flyers/hobbyists that may have ruined it for everyone, that's the way the world works. Don't you know this by now? They aren't trying to take away our rights, they're just trying regulate things because the fact of the matter is people are doing stupid things with RC aircraft. We live in a world with over 7 billion people and you can't make everyone happy. If you ride your dirt bike down the street your neighbor will complain. So here in NY, you can't dirt bike on public land, there are rules and regulations left and right, and you have to pay to ride in designated areas. That's life if you want to ride a dirt bike in NY because people before us tore up all the woods and made messes and the cops were called and now its regulated.
As a pilot of full scale aircraft with a commercial pilot certificate, graduate of an "air traffic control college", and DIY multirotor enthusiast I have experience on both sides of this debate. The big picture really needs to be considered here and with common sense. Do you really think it's a good idea to put millions of RC aircraft into the hands of people and kids who know nothing about airspace structure, regulation, or aviation safety? It doesn't take much thought to realize that one should probably not fly near an airport, but who besides an airman with formal training would know that you're still in Class C Airspace 2 miles away from the airport even at the surface? The hobbyists have no knowledge of the world of aviation when it comes to regulation and that's why I'm a bit surprised at all the negativity. I love my quadrotors, and I'd love to fly them anywhere but I don't because I know the airspace system. I knew it was a matter of time before someone put a stop to the people who know nothing of aviation horsing around in airspace where they don't belong... because of everything I've heard in the news and seen online, near misses and what-not.
For those who are enraged, let's dumb it down a bit and consider this. A foreigner comes to America, to your town, from a country which had no cars or electricity. They rent a car and drive backwards, they park on your lawn, they don't use blinkers, no headlights at night, and they drive 120mph on the wrong side of the highway. Don't you see a problem? Just because they didn't know the rules doesn't give them the right to do whatever they want. We already have an established way to operate on roads here, and they must be adhered to if they wish to drive. Same thing is true in the air. Planes have been there since 1903 and the FAA was established in 1926(then as the Aeronautics branch). We played nicely for a while with our toys, but now that people are causing a danger something should be done. I'm not saying Registration is the right answer because I see no implication of education along with it.
Although I do not want to register, and probably won't until I'm forced.
The FAA is not a blood thirsty beast. Instead they are driven by the blood of past accidents. They don't make rules for fun. They make laws to prevent injury and death. Most of the time with the FAA has to make a law after death has occurred. In this case they are being proactive because of the large-scale use of RC aircraft is becoming dangerous because users are ignorant.
Basically I support that the FAA is doing something, but it should be education rather than registration.
And Controllers aren't FAA minions, they probably hate the FAA more than you do. Every facility is severely understaffed and controllers are working double shifts and overtime to cover the FAA's backside because they don't have enough money to properly fund their ATC program, which is ultimately the government's fault.
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habakkukk on December 22, 2015
I think you make some valid points, but the FAA did nothing to address any of them with the registration. If they wanted to educate new pilots they would have just went through the AMA. Unfortunately someone crazy enough to fly at an airport or pull crazy shenanigans in public is probably not going to bother with a registration anyway. This point has been made before. This hobby is hard to get into. DJI and other companies helped bridge the "newbie gap" through technology. The FAA is just trying to profit from it. Data mining is gold and the cost of registration covers the overhead. Genius.
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FAI-F1D on December 23, 2015
defconxzero, as an FAA certificated commercial pilot and CFII with a Ph.D. in mechanical engineering working for an aerospace firm, I think my experience with the FAA is at bare minimum equal with yours. Your description of my assessment as "blind" and "whining" looks a lot like whining to me. We can play tit for tat all day. I've experienced personal loss at the hands of the FAA and ATC. You can group ATC separately from the FAA all you want, but ATC is the FAA's responsibility and primary function. If they can't even get ATC right, what business do they have regulating toys? ATC is the only useful function I've seen in the FAA in my lifetime, and my father and late father (also commercial pilots) expressed the same sentiment. Industry standards are what have given us safe aviation, not the FAA, and the same will happen with our toys. Get off the floor in the government goody bag throne room and open your eyes--the government makes problems--it doesn't fix them. Nothing the FAA does is going to improve safety with regards to toy airplanes. They can't even keep full scale pilots from acting like complete idiots (ever see a Lear 25 put on an aerobatics display at your local airport? Ever hear of Mac Hodges' famous escapades?) and they refuse to do anything substantive about making military pilots respect the people they're paid to protect.

You said "They don't make rules for fun. They make laws to prevent injury and death." Seriously? You really believe that laws can prevent injury and death? Laws punish wrongful injury and death. They cannot and will not prevent it, and the FAA does not make laws for that reason. If they did, Pt 135 wouldn't exist, the war between UPS and FedEx would never have happened, and the Cirrus SR20/22 would NEVER have been certificated for production.
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Capt_Sigmar on December 23, 2015
For all of those who are encouraging registration, Iincluding Flight Test, I wondered if they had any comment about the fact that the FAA has specifically said now that they will be producing a search function as part of their website so that the general public can look up your name and address if you register? Just like with N numbers, the general public will be able to search this database to get the name and address of the pilot.
Also, this registration is for the pilot, not the aircraft, so the FAA will not be able to identify what you fly or own based on this data, only that you "fly drones". So, if a done crashes into a plane near you without a registration number, you will be a suspect automatically, even if you never have purchased a drone and only scratch build foam planes. This isn't about safety, there is not any provision to require training of any kind. It is only about the FAA appearing to do something, and establishing a list of suspects for when something goes wrong. Do any of you actually think that people who are flying a DJI Phantom near an airliner or over the White House are the kind of people who put their contact info or a registration number on their drones?




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VietVet on December 24, 2015
http://www.modelairplanenews.com/blog/2015/12/18/ama-update-to-faa-registration/
READ THIS THERE MIGHT BE HOPE?
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earthsciteach on December 24, 2015
Ok, I finally started to listen to this podcast and I have to say, WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS ON??? Is this the official FT line? If so, to what end??? Does the fact the the FAA is operating outside their legal bounds not bother you??? Do you understand what is happening here? It doesn't seem so.
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GluedFingers on December 27, 2015
What is that cute little plane that is the picture for the show?
As for the new ruling everyone needs tor right their senator and congressman, and voice their opinion.
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GluedFingers on January 4, 2016
I asked Alex and Austin, and they said that is a picture of the Sparrow
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MikeRoper on January 8, 2016
Please check what we are agreeing to do. There are at least three highly troublesome agreements in the EULA: 1) prohibition of flight over 400 feet...will kill R/Csailplanes. 2) prohibition of night flying (good luck if you own a Shiny or Flybeam). 3) prohibition of flying in "bad weather". Bad weather for a man-carrying aircraft is very different than that for a model. I can easily and safely fly a 2 lb plane, heli or MR in weather with restricted visibility (say 2000 ft) and low ceiling (say 25 feet). This would be prohibited for VFR flight, and presumably all "drones".

Now, the FAA has added an account requirement for registration. The challenge portion is to respond to an email sent to the user's email account. There are now two bars for many: 1) required email account (about 20% of US families do not have internet access); 2) credit card requirement (about 30% us US households do not have a credit card). Those who do not have credit cards and internet access will likely not have smart phones, thus are discouraged from registration.

This has gotten completely out of hand.
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Kammo on January 13, 2016
Well I am very disappointed with flitetest not helping the fight against this being one of if not the biggest impression on this hobby and getting kids and families into it. I expected from the beginning of this that FT would push and ask others to help push against this. I was wrong in thinking this. Very let down at this point. I guess all that is left to do is watch this hobby go down the drain. "again".. So guess I'll just wait to see a video with some ones registered number on their plane so I can put that number on my plane and not be confronted when I don't have a number. I mean really who's gonna check and without a number it's a target for someone to make money from nothing. Yeah yeah I know that is messed up to do and no I wouldn't do that, just trying to make a point. But I can't listen to this podcast anymore and am kinda disgusted with FT all together. Thanks guys.. :(
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ifrit on January 23, 2016
Hi
In Poland for non commercial use of any rc aircraf under 25kg(~55lb) we can use it with camera. The Polish FAA start up a website where u can check any information araund you and other places and it's updated every 3h. 40km araund me i can fly my quadcopter so it's god for me :)
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Robbutler1977 on March 18, 2016
WOW I just was going to check out the podcast and happened to click on this one and it plow my mind! I would have never known! I have not heard about this.
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Robbutler1977 on March 18, 2016
Ok I am looking at these dates and the last post is 3 days after they end of the push to register. so did it just go away? or does everyone need to register? or just drones?
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