Hello Flitetest,
Thats my first article and I want to show you our Solarplane that we build this summer.
We are currently in the 11th class and that was our project for the last schoolyear.
Before that in the 9th class we build an solarboat :
After that we thought of something more faster and we want to build an solarplane.
As an inspiration we found that very nice project : http://www.solarimpulse.com/
Our first idea was to build an own plane for the solarcells but because we had not so much money and time we bought an wing that was made for gliding : http://www.kuestenflieger.de/modelle/albatros/index.html
For the cells we used some of a little german factory. The specs are:
0,6 V and 2 A by a size of 78x78 mm
On our plane we have 24 of that and with good sun we have 13 V and 2 A.
Here are some pictures of the build;
The wingspan is 2 meters and finally the weight is about 1,5 kilogramm.
After we build the wings we had to build a case for the solarcells and a motormount.
We decided to print the things on our 3d printer mendel prusa.
Here are the cases for the solarcells. Some in balsa and some in abs. We had to build some in balsa because our filament was empty :)
For flight stabilisation and autonomous flight we bought an CRIUS AIO by RcTimer with GPS and Current Sensor so we could let it flight alone.
Our biggest Problem was how to charge the battary in flight with all the Current that we have.
We could either build an own MPPT or we could use an balancer charger.
We decided to use this Balancing Charger from parkzone : http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PKZ1040
It can charge with up to 3 A. After we bought one on Ebay we adjusted it :
Thats the final product :)
The battery in the front is a Lipo 3S 3300 mAh.
The motor draws on cruising speed a little bit more than 2 A. Our longest flight was something around 3 hours and still some power in the battery :)
Greetings from germany
Jan :)
What firmware are you running Crius?
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http://www.lemo-solar.de/shop/solarzellen.php?p=2
Solarzelle (lose Solarzelle)
Solarzelle 0,61 Volt / 2174 mA / 1022 mW /78 x 78 x 0,3 mm
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Great job of designing and building this!
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Solar power is the way of the future, as is with all renewable energy. These guys have a great things ahead to do.
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congratulations, great, great job !
I am currently coaching a student team that have the same project.
Actually 26 watt to maintain in the air a 1.5 kg model is really a good deal !
Few questions:
1) Why do you use cases for the solar cells ?
We plan to use the same solar cells from Lemo-Solar but with a classic glider (wings in wod structure). As I have not seen yet theses solar cells, do you think it could be sticked directly on the wings ?
2) Do you have an electric schema explaining how you connect all components ?
Focus on the balancer-charger: do you recommend specific setup ?
3) what wing loading factor do you have ?
many thanks
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Conrad
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Calling him a liar? .A little harsh don't you think? Encouragement, and help may be a better way. The concept is cool, did you see this glider on FT?
Solar Wonder - electric flyier without batteries by House Of Noob - See http://flitetest.com/articles/solar-wonder
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If the motor/ESC draw a little over 2A continuous at 11-13v, and the solar cells provide a current of a little less than 2A continuous to the balance charger that is charging the 3S battery, then the continuous shortfall that would result in a net discharge of the 3S battery could be rather small.
It seems believable to me that a 3300mah 3S battery might support a small discharge rate for 3 hours, since it should in theory be able to deliver a full ampere for 3.3 hours.
Just 'sayin...
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Ill bet with that battery and no solar cells that u cant fly for more then 20 min. 3 hours divide by 20min is 15. So to fly for that long you would need 15 of the same batteries. There is no way your solar cells can deliver that much power. Stop trolling and be realistic.
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The plane is not a normal wing for fast flying, it´s made for hanggliding without an motor. (http://www.kuestenflieger.de/modelle/albatros/bausatz.html)
Without a motor, just servos, a little battery and receiver it weights about 850 Gramm.
Our boxes for the cells are 2,4 for the plastic ones and 1,8 for the balsa.
One Solarcell is under one gramm.
The weight of the motor is 52 gramms.
The 3S 3300 Lipo weights 278 gramm.
The Charger weights 68 gramm.
All the other stuff like wires and electronics are maybe 200 gramms.
850+40+52+278+68+200=1488 gramms
So it´s for 2 meter wingspan really not heavy.
The thrust for a slow flying plane like this doesnt have to be 1:2.
You have the greatest efficiency when the prop is spinning slow like on the solarimpulse : http://www.solarimpulse.com/en/airplane/hb-sia/
When we start the plane we have to give 70 % of thrust to get it in the air, but if it flies we can come down to 20 % to hold it in the air.
We also have a voltage regulator on board. So when the sun is shining good can we got 0,58-0,6 V out of each cell. So is our Voltage by around 14 Volt and our current goes up to 2,3 A with what we can charge the cell.
And beatnik1967, with your estimation about the number of batteries you say nothing concrete. There were people who said a copter can never fly over 30 minutes and talked about like they new all about that stuff. And than there are some people who simply bring their ideas into real.
And when we have sommer again here, i can make you a 3 hour video about it when you want.
Cheers
Jan
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NOT EVEN CLOSE TO CONVINCED
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Here is a Motor for example who can deliver 430 grams of thrust at a 4S by 2.1 A.
http://www.encorerc.com/tiger-motor-mn4010-14-370kv-navigator-series/
Because we have not that much money for a motor, we buyed this one http://www.rctimer.com/product_123.html and made our one winding.
We have made more windings to get a lower kv and now we have a thrust of 260 gramms at 2,1 Amps.
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For us, the wing also has a bigger space for the cells :)
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