The Galaxy v1 - The Huuuuuuuuge Glider

by Planiac01 | April 28, 2016 | (14) Posted in Projects

So picture this: You're out at the field with some buddies of yours.  It's been a slow day, and you choose a plane to fit the mood.  But you're arm is sore from whipping up DLG's and you want something a little bigger than the Tiny Trainer, and even the Simple Soarer can't quench your thirst for size.  So this is when you bring out your (insert David the Swede here) Huuuuuuuuuge Glider!

 

I had thought of this plane one day in my biology class after I finished my work.  I knew I wanted a trainer, because I had been teaching my dad to fly, but the first plane we built for him couldn't take off.  We only had the Power Pack A for him.  It needed to be three channels, and be very docile.  I drew out plans one day after school, and cut out the plane that night.  The original plane had a 30" wingspan (762mm) and is was 21" (533mm) long.  It flew fantastic!  It turned out to be another of the so-called happy accidents, aside from a polyhedral angle fix which I corrected easily.  It had a fantastic glide slope for something so small, and I could fly it in the front yard.  I would have pictures of it, except I was flying it one day and I lost orientation, and it landed well, except it landed in a tree.  Here's a video of that-

 

After that incident, I decided I wanted to build one for myself.  The only thing is, I wanted it to be BIG.  So, I scaled up the small plans 300%, and this is the result-

 

Before I first flew this, I just stuck the battery onto the bottom to figure out the CG and to just mess around with it on the driveway.  I figured out the CG was 45-50% back from the leading edge, and then I started sprinting with the plane in my hand.  The battery wasn't even plugged in and I had no control, but it started flying out of my hand.  It gained about 10ft./3m of altitude, and I had to run under it until it glided down.

I went to maiden it, and I wasn't sure if it had enough power, but I just chucked it.  It was beautiful.  After I trimmed it out and gotten a feel for it, I brought it up to altitude and cut the throttle.  It slowed down a ton and I thought it would stall, but it didn't.  I believe it glides at around 7-9 mph, and the glide slope is like nothing I have ever seen before.  I can take it up to about 50 ft./15m, and I can glide for 1.5 minutes before I have to throttle up again.

One amazing characteristic of this is how it it flies itself.  I can just let go of the sticks and let it glide for 15-20 seconds at a time, and I only need to touch them to steer it away from a building or road.

This glider can be flown from a 3s1300mAh all the way up to a 3s 3000mAh.  It could very likely fly much higher, I just don't have enough batteries to test it.  I only fly with a 3s 2200mAh battery because I only have 3 3s batteries and that is the only one big enough to fly it with the CG correct.  With that, I can fly for about 20 minutes.  I will soon get another and run the in parallel.

Here is the maiden.  There is not too much flying footage, because the camera wasn't recording when we thought it was-

Here is the second flight-

 

 

Here it is next to a king size bed.  It is huge.

A top-ish shot of the fuselage

Here is the 12 inch chord wing a compared to a 15 year old hand.  My hand is about average for my age, so if you know any teenagers, you have a reference point.

Because the control surfaces are huge (90in./580.6cm sq.), I decided that 9 gram servos wouldn't cut it.  So, I got some cheap 17g servos from Hobbyking.

Here you can see the stabilizers.  The vertical stabilizer is 12 in./305mm x 12 in./305mm at its widest point.  The control surface is 3 in./76mm x 12 in./305mm.  The elevator is huge.  It is the width of an entire sheet of DTFB.  At its widest point, it is 12 in./305mm x 30 in./762mm.  The control surface is 3 in./76.2mm x 30 in./762mm.

Here you can see the underside of the wingtips.  I have a standard box spar, and no wood reinforcements.  Even though it looks otherwise, the wing is incredibly strong.  I have a feeling this will not break.  Also, I put the undercambered wingtips in.  So now when it stalls, it just looses about 2 ft./60cm of altitude and just keeps on floating.

You can't see in the picture, but the wing is standing on its end, and I am standing next to it.  I am 5' 8"/1.7m, but you can still see it is taller than a standard doorframe.

 

Specs:

Wingspan: 88 in./2235mm

Length: 63.5 in./1613mm

Weight: Without Battery-830g/With 2200mAh 3s-1019g

Wing Area: 7.5 sq. ft./0.696m sq.

Wing Loading: 136g/sq. ft.

 

Electronics:

Power Pack C and 3s 2200mAh

OR

Motor: NTM Prop Drive Series 28-26A 1200kv

ESC: TURNIGY Plush 25amp Speed Controller w/BEC

Servos (Needed with either motor/ESC): HobbyKing™ HK15148 Analog Servo 2.5kg / 0.14sec / 17g


Now, one thing that you might notice is the absence of plans.  I do this for 2 reasons: 1.) I don't know how to make plans online like the Flite Test plane plans.  If someone could help me, or at least tell me of a software that can do that, please do!  It would be much appreciated!  And the other reason is 2.) It has some bad tendencies that I would like to fix, and there are some minor convenience changes.  One thing I need to change is the thrust angle.  Whenever I give it throttle, it wants to nose up.  So, on my next version I will have a lowered thrust angle.  Also, back of the fuselage flexes rotationally quite a bit.  It is fine gliding, but when under power it twists up to 15 degrees in either direction.  The good thing is that no stress lines have appeared on the foam.  If anyone knows of a way to fix the flexing, that would be great!  I was thinking of some BBQ skewer cross bracing.  Another thing I want to do is to make the wing be able to split in two pieces.  As it is now, it is quite difficult to fit in a car.

Look out for a version 2 in the future, and if anyone has any solutions to my problems, that would be wonderful.  

 

Overall, this is a great glider.  I have built about 13 planes so far, and this is my favorite by a long shot.  Despite its size, it is very simple to build.  It uses 5.5 sheets of foam, which is pretty good for a plane this big.  I will work out the kinks and post plans later!

COMMENTS

Heavy313 on April 28, 2016
I really enjoyed this man! I look forward to building this some day :)
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Heavy313 on April 28, 2016
If you lowered the horizontal stab like the TT you could put the servos and linkages in the body for less drag when gliding...
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Mostly Harmless on April 29, 2016
Sweet! I love the way it flies -- slow and gentle. Nicely done!

I scaled up the Explorer wing to 2 meters long in search of this sort of performance. It flies nicely, but not nearly as floaty as this (the Explorer is a heavy aircraft in comparison). I'll have to try this approach. Do you have a measurement of the aircraft weight?

You might be able to solve your tail flexing by reinforcing with internal bracing. Instead of skewers, try gluing squares of foamboard inside the tail -- every 6" or so. This would serve not only as internal bracing, but you could also use these braces as push-rod guides if you put your servos internal as Heavy313 suggested.

Keep pressing on! I look forward to future reports on your efforts.
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Planiac01 on April 29, 2016
This weighs 1019 grams with the battery. I will try the squares!
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Larry Laitner on April 29, 2016
I went back to the video to try to see how the fuselage was constructed. It looks like the fuselage is built with an open bottom on a three sided box. If I saw this correctly, I think that is the biggest part of the problem. A full four sided box is way stiffer torsionally than a three sided box. If you are already using a full four sided box, the only other suggestion I have is to increase the cross-section area of the box.

I think I might build one of these. Good work. It is a nice plane.
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Planiac01 on April 29, 2016
Hmmm...that's a good idea. As of now, it is only a three sided box. My next version will be four-sided. I am working on some plans for a better one now.
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Mostly Harmless on April 30, 2016
I didn't notice that. Adding that 4th side will probably be more than enough to solve your twisting issues. And you don't have to build a new version to try it. You can easily add a bottom to your current aircraft similar to the fuselage bottom of a plane like the Simple Storch.
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themistocles3 on April 29, 2016
Very nice! Did you just butt wing sections together or are there any overlapping parts for bracing? The FT corsair wing was what came to mind.
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Planiac01 on April 29, 2016
The wing sections are just butted together. I didn't know of a simple way of I have an overlapping box spar.
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vitorbarros on April 29, 2016
Nice job dude! I love those slow planes too. Definitely gonna build some kind of this soon!
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CMS_1961 on April 29, 2016
Nice design!! I think a little down thrust on your motor will calm down the climb under power and a little right thrust on the motor may help with the twist. It could just be your fuse is pretty thin in the back and when the thrust from the motor hits that large vertical and horizontal it pushes it around. The other trick is to simply climb at mid throttle settings.
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808aerosquadron on April 30, 2016
A really well done design. Keep up the good work.
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blackkrystal73 on April 30, 2016
Nice Work!!!!! LOOKS NICE AN STABLE....
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Planiac01 on May 4, 2016
Thanks!
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llharper on May 1, 2016
Nice job !!!
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Leslie Newhouse on May 1, 2016
Outstanding!
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russj48 on May 2, 2016
Fantastic job!

If you are looking for a way to create your plans, take a look Sketchup.com it is free and there are lots of videos on YouTube to help you learn how to use it.

Good luck

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Planiac01 on May 4, 2016
Thanks!
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drifttoy on May 2, 2016
Very nice! Kinda reminds me of the solar powered plane on the news the other day.
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Planiac01 on May 4, 2016
Really?! Where was that?
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swizera on May 5, 2016
Awesome buddy. flies great, very slow and glide endlessly.
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bdonaghyjr on May 5, 2016
very nice and great flying..... Once you have it tuned out , it should float hands free !
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SnapPunchRobert on May 9, 2016
Really a great job. You've done very well. :) I'd like to build this one.
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rszanti on May 21, 2016
Nice work Planiac ! I'd like to build one myself. What thickness foam did you use for the build ?
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Planiac01 on May 21, 2016
I used dollar tree foam board. It is 3/16 inches thick, or 5 mm. I used 5.5 20"x30" sheets
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jordy123 on June 18, 2016
Needs to be scaled to 200% of the big one LOL
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Planiac01 on June 20, 2016
Funny thing you say that, because I am halfway done with the wing. Will you be at FliteFest?
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jordy123 on June 20, 2016
No, I won't, but I will be watching for that article!
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FoamTest on October 10, 2016
This plane is what inspired my first scratch build, and that inspired lots of my other scratch builds, and so on. I still have the fuse answers wing from it, it's on my "wall of fame" along with my terribly beat up, mini guinea pig nose.
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Planiac01 on October 11, 2016
Really? I'm glad I could help you! You should write some articles about your builds.
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FoamTest on October 11, 2016
I would but they have all been robbed of their electronics for other builds.
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Planiac01 on October 12, 2016
Oh. Well as you keep building them, make sure you take pictures along the way and maybe an occasional video. Then you can write an article later.
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FoamTest on October 11, 2016
Another thing, I have been looking for someone to be my partner for my youtube channel for a while now. I haven't had much luck at my school, so I was wondering if you would like to partner with me? I live in NE Ohio, and if you need to contact me other than the comment sections of the articles my email is,

foamtestyt@gmail.com
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Planiac01 on October 12, 2016
Ok so the problem is that I live in Charlotte, NC. Is that okay for what you are doing?
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FoamTest on October 12, 2016
Oh that's a little problem, I was thinking of doing something similar to josh bixler and Scott. We could still claborate with some things, like testing each other's designs and reviewing them. It seems like everyone I meet on here lives far away from Ohio, except Flite Test ironically.
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Planiac01 on October 12, 2016
I would love to do that. I could send you my designs to beta test and you could send me yours. Do you have any other ideas? And I'm sorry about your problem.
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Spacemonkeykj on October 11, 2016
WOW great job!!! This plane is epic. I totally want to build one just like it. Right now I am working on a design that is called the Ares. (There is picture in my current article -http://flitetest.com/articles/fms-cessna-182-sky-trainer-1010mm-review) I want to release plans in the upcoming build article but don't know how. Planiac 01, you mentioned that you have experience making plans in Foam Test's Basic Trainer article. If you could make plans for my plane that would be awesome! Give me you email address and I will send you the dimensions. Again, great work on your glider!
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Planiac01 on October 12, 2016
Thanks a ton! And yes, I would love to make your plans. So far I have only made plans the old FT style, but I'd be happy to try it the newer way. My email is: trainiac01@gmail.com
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Spacemonkeykj on October 12, 2016
Great! Thank you so much! I will give you the dimensions as soon as I'm done with them, probably in a few days. Thanks again
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Planiac01 on October 12, 2016
Sounds good!
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Spacemonkeykj on October 16, 2016
I will have the dimensions ready tomorrow and will send them by the end of the day tomorrow. Thanks again for your help!
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Planiac01 on October 16, 2016
No worries! And you have my email address?
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Spacemonkeykj on October 16, 2016
Yes I do!
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dsublette on February 15, 2017
Great work! This glider reminds me of the "Gentle Lady" balsa glider. That was the first plane that I ever built, and when I crashed it, I used the plans and built one from foam. It surprised me how well it flies!
Word to the Flitetest crew for giving me (and many others) a jump start on scratch building!!!
-Daryl, Westport, Indiana.
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The Galaxy v1 - The Huuuuuuuuge Glider